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It is always easy to armchair quarterback, but that is a serious waste of water. I would definately rethink my attack plans after watching this. If there is time and water supply to set up the stick, there should be time to coordinate a decent fire attack. If nothing else put the wet stuff on the red stuff not on the roof.
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Single Blitzfire in the rear could do wonders after collapse. We have them preconnected and ready to roll on 3" apt lays off the rear. Pull and flow.
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shut the door, quick search the room and back out the window!!! But that is just me. While I know it is NOT the right way to look at things, I will do things myself that I would not order another FF to do. Accept the risk and fate if I chose a risky op like that and I am willing to die if there is a decent chance to get someone out alive, but I would probably have to hear someone yelling or see them through the window before I would order a crew to do that in a structure that far advanced.
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them from burning it's one thing (though the steam will probably kill or severely burn them anyway), but there is never a reason on a total loss with no one inside.
It can be VERY correctly argued that the chances of anyone alive would not warrant a rescue attempt anyway, but depending on the situation and my “little voice in my head”, I might try a rescue in the front, but it would be a rapid in & out… no searching the whole house; in the window, check the hall just outside the door, shut th...
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Not to mention, (while I hate to say "never") I never put an interior crew in a structure with an elevated master stream flowing within any decent proximity. It increases the chance of collapse, and, if you have never been hit with one, let me tell you it is NOT a good experience!!! Even if you make it back out before the fire steams you like a lobster or the water weight collapses the floor under your feet. If you have a FF down in heavy fire and you are trying a last ditch effort to keep them...
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I would put money on the fact that is a common attic throughout. Even though the front "looks safe" because there are no signs of serious fire, the fact is that all of the flames coming out along the ridge shows you that it is burning that bad in the front too. (at least over their heads where they couldn’t see it had a crew been inside)
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heirlooms are emotionally important to people: 1. They are probably destroyed by heat and smoke already & 2. YOUR FF's ARE EMOTIONALY IMPORTANT TO THEIR FAMILY!!!
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I agree with "Larry" that 2 ground monitors in the back or at minimum a RAM would have been a lot more effective than the Tower. I also agree that the initial placement of the Tower was correct, it would be hard to know it would collapse the way it did.
However, "15truck" is TOTALLY CORRECT in the fact that there is NO WAY you should send an interior crew into that structure. The collapse itself tells you that if none of the other signs did!!! That house is a total loss, and while heirlooms ...
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2 Things, Firstly where should the truck be spotted at? Last time i can see from this video, it took the adress (hat's off to the truck for that)granted i don't know if there is another st behind this residence or not. But the truck did what it had to do....Don't forget fella's look at the wind, your wind is playing a big role in fueling this fire, and the fact that the fire took inside the roof now would put your "line inside" at risk.....Common sense guys, replace a house, can't replace a life...
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That GPM going to a couple of ground monitors in the back of the structure looks like a better way to go. Two small lines inside to stop extension would also be nice.
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i know its easy to sit at a computer and see whats going wrong, but i couldnt help but notice what a waste of water, the position of the tower is all wrong, 90% of the water isnt even effective
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